1 00:00:06,019 --> 00:00:04,309 good morning thank you for joining us 2 00:00:08,059 --> 00:00:06,029 here at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:08,069 Florida for the L minus two 4 00:00:13,220 --> 00:00:10,410 pre-launch news conference for spacial 5 00:00:15,169 --> 00:00:13,230 Atlantis's sts-135 mission to the 6 00:00:17,599 --> 00:00:15,179 International Space Station joining me 7 00:00:19,340 --> 00:00:17,609 today is Mike Moses mission management 8 00:00:21,250 --> 00:00:19,350 team chair and space shuttle launch 9 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:21,260 integration manager morning 10 00:00:27,349 --> 00:00:23,910 mike leinbach/shuttle launch director 11 00:00:29,529 --> 00:00:27,359 good morning and Kathy winters shuttle 12 00:00:31,580 --> 00:00:29,539 weather officer good morning 13 00:00:34,190 --> 00:00:31,590 we'll hear from our panelists and then 14 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:34,200 take questions mr. Moses thanks Kendra 15 00:00:38,060 --> 00:00:36,510 well we had a really smooth mission 16 00:00:40,340 --> 00:00:38,070 management team meeting today at the 17 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:40,350 launch minus two day point standard 18 00:00:43,459 --> 00:00:41,730 thing went through the agenda talked all 19 00:00:46,819 --> 00:00:43,469 the the parties involved nobody has any 20 00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:46,829 issues that are in work a little tacky 21 00:00:51,229 --> 00:00:48,239 and thing going on at the slf that 22 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:51,239 they've actually already resolved and I 23 00:00:54,410 --> 00:00:52,410 think I just got an email that there's 24 00:00:55,369 --> 00:00:54,420 an air-conditioner problem in Houston in 25 00:00:57,439 --> 00:00:55,379 one of the buildings that they're 26 00:00:58,580 --> 00:00:57,449 working on to so stuff down in the noise 27 00:00:59,869 --> 00:00:58,590 nothing to really worry about although 28 00:01:03,500 --> 00:00:59,879 air conditioning in Houston is actually 29 00:01:05,210 --> 00:01:03,510 a very big deal and so so really good 30 00:01:07,789 --> 00:01:05,220 shape the vehicle is in fantastic shape 31 00:01:09,170 --> 00:01:07,799 Mike's got the the launch team keyed up 32 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:09,180 and ready to go they're doing perfect 33 00:01:13,340 --> 00:01:11,310 everything's on time on schedule looking 34 00:01:16,219 --> 00:01:13,350 looking amazing it's a great way to head 35 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:16,229 into this into this countdown like I 36 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:18,090 said nothing we talked about technical 37 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:20,369 issues at all today we did discuss the 38 00:01:23,570 --> 00:01:21,570 weather I'll let Cathy talk about that 39 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:23,580 with you but but it's a straightforward 40 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:25,530 plan for us we're heading into Friday's 41 00:01:30,649 --> 00:01:27,920 launch attempt knowing that we have 42 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:30,659 basically the 8th 9th and 10th there's 43 00:01:34,130 --> 00:01:32,250 opportunities and then we'd have to 44 00:01:37,460 --> 00:01:34,140 stand down to let a delta take the range 45 00:01:38,990 --> 00:01:37,470 for a GPS launch everybody's already 46 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:39,000 asking do we have plans to make them 47 00:01:42,859 --> 00:01:41,070 move and all that and and the bottom 48 00:01:45,230 --> 00:01:42,869 line is nothing happens until we can't 49 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:45,240 launch right so nobody's gonna agree to 50 00:01:48,170 --> 00:01:46,890 things that are planned until their 51 00:01:49,850 --> 00:01:48,180 problems and there's no problems yet 52 00:01:52,190 --> 00:01:49,860 there's just weather forecasts and 53 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:52,200 weather forecasts or forecasts so we'll 54 00:01:54,319 --> 00:01:53,280 wait until we get there and see what we 55 00:01:56,179 --> 00:01:54,329 get 56 00:01:57,709 --> 00:01:56,189 and and so no there's nothing planned 57 00:01:59,060 --> 00:01:57,719 you know I had my phone ringing this 58 00:02:00,740 --> 00:01:59,070 morning the folks at the rental car 59 00:02:01,940 --> 00:02:00,750 places at the airport telling everybody 60 00:02:03,740 --> 00:02:01,950 we've already scrubbed because the 61 00:02:05,749 --> 00:02:03,750 weather forecast was bad and we don't do 62 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:05,759 that until we get a little closer and we 63 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:06,930 don't hope to do that at all this time 64 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:08,640 around so so no plans to do anything 65 00:02:10,820 --> 00:02:09,810 we're going to just go through the 66 00:02:13,010 --> 00:02:10,830 account like we usually do we'll see 67 00:02:13,730 --> 00:02:13,020 what we get when we get into the tanking 68 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:13,740 weather briefing which 69 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:16,050 at 1:30 in the morning on Friday 1:30 70 00:02:19,730 --> 00:02:18,180 a.m. and before we go load the 71 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:19,740 propellants into the tank we'll take a 72 00:02:23,060 --> 00:02:20,970 look at the weather and make sure it's 73 00:02:24,830 --> 00:02:23,070 really a good day to try that and so at 74 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:24,840 that point we'll be making a decision so 75 00:02:27,770 --> 00:02:26,640 with that I really don't have anything 76 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:27,780 else to say it's and we're in great 77 00:02:31,370 --> 00:02:29,010 shape really looking forward to getting 78 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:31,380 this mission underway ok thanks Mike 79 00:02:34,940 --> 00:02:32,730 well the countdown so far is going 80 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:34,950 extremely well we're into the loading of 81 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:36,480 a fuel cell system right now and that's 82 00:02:40,730 --> 00:02:38,610 the liquid oxygen liquid hydrogen that 83 00:02:42,620 --> 00:02:40,740 powers those fuel cells that should be 84 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:42,630 done around dinnertime this evening and 85 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:44,010 we'll Deacon figure from that and get 86 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:46,080 back into other launch pad preparations 87 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:49,050 at that time rotating service structure 88 00:02:52,700 --> 00:02:50,730 retract tomorrow afternoon about 2 89 00:02:54,670 --> 00:02:52,710 o'clock maybe looking at some weather 90 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:54,680 issues there Kathy we'll talk about that 91 00:02:58,900 --> 00:02:57,330 talk to commander Ferguson he's he and 92 00:03:02,120 --> 00:02:58,910 his crew are ready to go they got here 93 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:02,130 on the fifth and and on the fourth you 94 00:03:07,070 --> 00:03:04,170 see on the fifth and are ready to go so 95 00:03:09,020 --> 00:03:07,080 that everything is looking good there so 96 00:03:10,910 --> 00:03:09,030 no issues at the launch pad we had a 97 00:03:12,170 --> 00:03:10,920 very clean meeting as Mike said not 98 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:12,180 tracking anything at all that would 99 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:13,890 prevent a long time liftoff Friday 100 00:03:18,230 --> 00:03:17,130 morning so we're feeling good and we 101 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:18,240 turned over to Kathy for the weather 102 00:03:22,730 --> 00:03:20,970 forecast I wish I had better weather for 103 00:03:24,740 --> 00:03:22,740 the forecast but it is not looking 104 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:24,750 favorable right now for lunch we have a 105 00:03:27,380 --> 00:03:26,250 tropical wave that's on the Caribbean 106 00:03:29,690 --> 00:03:27,390 and actually I'll show you a satellite 107 00:03:31,220 --> 00:03:29,700 picture it's actually in the Bahamas now 108 00:03:32,930 --> 00:03:31,230 yesterday we were looking at the same 109 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:32,940 wave in the Caribbean and it's coming 110 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:35,430 into the Bahamas and that wave is 111 00:03:38,570 --> 00:03:37,290 actually going to come into Florida you 112 00:03:39,950 --> 00:03:38,580 can see on the satellite picture along 113 00:03:41,090 --> 00:03:39,960 with a lot of tropical moisture that 114 00:03:43,790 --> 00:03:41,100 sound to the south that's all going to 115 00:03:45,530 --> 00:03:43,800 roll in to Florida the next couple of 116 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:45,540 days particularly tomorrow for the wave 117 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:47,310 but it's not really going to move right 118 00:03:51,140 --> 00:03:49,680 through it's gonna as it comes in an 119 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:51,150 upper-level trough is going to come down 120 00:03:56,030 --> 00:03:53,910 and the the actual wave will kind of 121 00:03:58,700 --> 00:03:56,040 washout over Florida giving us a lot of 122 00:04:00,110 --> 00:03:58,710 moisture and a lot of cloud cover 123 00:04:02,180 --> 00:04:00,120 yesterday I kind of thought maybe we'd 124 00:04:03,410 --> 00:04:02,190 have some some decent conditions here 125 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:03,420 along the coast when it came to seeing 126 00:04:06,740 --> 00:04:05,010 the vehicle if we were able to get green 127 00:04:08,570 --> 00:04:06,750 for launch but in reality it looks like 128 00:04:09,980 --> 00:04:08,580 tomorrow it's gonna be pretty cloudy and 129 00:04:11,390 --> 00:04:09,990 I actually backed off of the sea breeze 130 00:04:14,210 --> 00:04:11,400 I think our winds are now going to be 131 00:04:15,980 --> 00:04:14,220 from the south-southwest and we're gonna 132 00:04:17,150 --> 00:04:15,990 have some showers and even potentially 133 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:17,160 some thunderstorms in the area by 134 00:04:20,990 --> 00:04:19,440 lunchtime so to get into our SS reach 135 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:21,000 wreck tomorrow afternoon the you're 136 00:04:25,159 --> 00:04:22,850 gonna start seeing more scattered 137 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:25,169 showers some isolated thunderstorms we 138 00:04:28,860 --> 00:04:26,710 may have to work around some of those 139 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:28,870 comes to that operation and then as we 140 00:04:31,469 --> 00:04:30,310 get into the evening hours for tanking I 141 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:31,479 think some of those thunderstorms are 142 00:04:35,610 --> 00:04:33,490 going to call back down and it'll be 143 00:04:38,610 --> 00:04:35,620 mostly showers in the area with a 20% 144 00:04:40,260 --> 00:04:38,620 chance of KC weather preventing tanking 145 00:04:42,659 --> 00:04:40,270 and then as we get to launch we have a 146 00:04:44,730 --> 00:04:42,669 70% chance of can't see weather proving 147 00:04:46,650 --> 00:04:44,740 launch due to our lightning launch 148 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:46,660 commit criteria violation potential for 149 00:04:50,159 --> 00:04:48,610 the cumulus cloud rule and also 150 00:04:51,990 --> 00:04:50,169 potential for a flight through precip 151 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:52,000 rule which is actually a UH ttle 152 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:54,400 specific rule and then also a showers 153 00:04:58,490 --> 00:04:56,289 and thunderstorms within 20 nautical 154 00:05:02,010 --> 00:04:58,500 miles of the shuttle landing facility 155 00:05:03,180 --> 00:05:02,020 and the towel sides actually look good 156 00:05:04,350 --> 00:05:03,190 spaceflight meteorology group is 157 00:05:07,230 --> 00:05:04,360 forecasting good weather at the Tao 158 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:07,240 sites for us each day the weather gets a 159 00:05:10,890 --> 00:05:09,490 little bit better we still do have a lot 160 00:05:13,469 --> 00:05:10,900 of moisture in the atmosphere over the 161 00:05:15,210 --> 00:05:13,479 next few days so it's not certainly 162 00:05:17,550 --> 00:05:15,220 clean and green but it does seem to be 163 00:05:18,779 --> 00:05:17,560 improving as all that moisture will 164 00:05:20,219 --> 00:05:18,789 actually move a little bit more to the 165 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:20,229 north we're still on the moist side of a 166 00:05:23,010 --> 00:05:22,000 weak boundary that's that's still going 167 00:05:24,689 --> 00:05:23,020 to be lingering in the area it's gonna 168 00:05:26,309 --> 00:05:24,699 be a little bit more to the north we're 169 00:05:28,559 --> 00:05:26,319 still on the moist side of that so each 170 00:05:31,140 --> 00:05:28,569 day we'll be watching for more of a 171 00:05:33,149 --> 00:05:31,150 Seabreeze type situation but as we move 172 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:33,159 forward in time the the launch moves 173 00:05:36,930 --> 00:05:34,720 earlier and so the weather conditions 174 00:05:38,999 --> 00:05:36,940 continue to improve so for day two we 175 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:39,009 did increase the number to a 60% chance 176 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:40,810 of KC weather prohibiting launch on 177 00:05:44,879 --> 00:05:43,090 Saturday because we are still very moist 178 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:44,889 as we get into Sunday that number is 179 00:05:50,129 --> 00:05:47,770 down to a 40% chance of KSC weather 180 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:50,139 prohibiting launch so again that earlier 181 00:05:53,730 --> 00:05:52,240 launch time continues to help us the 182 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:53,740 tale sites do look good on day two on 183 00:05:56,670 --> 00:05:55,449 day three there is a chance for some 184 00:05:58,529 --> 00:05:56,680 thunderstorms within two of the Tao 185 00:06:01,499 --> 00:05:58,539 sites and mainly it's due to an Vil 186 00:06:03,420 --> 00:06:01,509 cloud concerns so on that day we'll have 187 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:03,430 to what basically I'm here eligible we 188 00:06:07,170 --> 00:06:05,650 were watching those so overall we are 189 00:06:09,779 --> 00:06:07,180 concerned about weather for launch we do 190 00:06:13,260 --> 00:06:09,789 have a 70% chance of KSC weather 191 00:06:14,610 --> 00:06:13,270 prohibiting launch kendry thank you when 192 00:06:16,379 --> 00:06:14,620 the microphone comes your way please 193 00:06:18,749 --> 00:06:16,389 state your name and affiliation and to 194 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:18,759 whom you're addressing your question we 195 00:06:26,370 --> 00:06:21,849 could start over here Kevin in the front 196 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:26,380 please hi I'm Kevin Fong BBC you have to 197 00:06:31,589 --> 00:06:28,330 understand with we're British so we only 198 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:31,599 ever talk about the weather and you're 199 00:06:34,890 --> 00:06:33,130 the most important we're the woman in 200 00:06:38,430 --> 00:06:34,900 the world for me today so I just 201 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:38,440 wondered how how what it's like to feel 202 00:06:40,830 --> 00:06:39,820 the pressure of getting this forecast 203 00:06:44,170 --> 00:06:40,840 right Kathy 204 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:44,180 well it'll kind of depend on launch day 205 00:06:49,180 --> 00:06:47,090 on how it is really if it's a very bad 206 00:06:51,610 --> 00:06:49,190 situation it's kind of obvious and we'll 207 00:06:52,990 --> 00:06:51,620 just be read when it gets interesting as 208 00:06:55,270 --> 00:06:53,000 when it's a little more in between and 209 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:55,280 so then I'll be talking to Mike quite a 210 00:06:58,840 --> 00:06:57,110 bit but I have a whole team it's not 211 00:07:00,730 --> 00:06:58,850 just me they're working that we have a 212 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:00,740 whole team of meteorologists that are 213 00:07:03,670 --> 00:07:01,730 working that are trained on the 214 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:03,680 Lightning launch commit criteria and our 215 00:07:07,900 --> 00:07:06,800 launch criteria and so they're what we 216 00:07:09,940 --> 00:07:07,910 have somebody manning the radar or 217 00:07:12,250 --> 00:07:09,950 somebody listening to it the aircraft is 218 00:07:14,410 --> 00:07:12,260 telling us we have people manning all 219 00:07:14,860 --> 00:07:14,420 these different positions so it's really 220 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:14,870 um 221 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:16,370 I wouldn't call it pressure I call it 222 00:07:21,340 --> 00:07:18,080 exciting it's really more of an exciting 223 00:07:23,290 --> 00:07:21,350 situation we get into it's not it's not 224 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:23,300 really I guess a feeling like stress 225 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:24,650 until maybe afterwards and you're kind 226 00:07:29,050 --> 00:07:26,570 of big letdown if you do happen to scrum 227 00:07:32,980 --> 00:07:29,060 but but so that's kind of how it how it 228 00:07:35,650 --> 00:07:32,990 is Marsha mm-hmm Marsha den Associated 229 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:35,660 Press for Mike Moses how bad of a 230 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:37,280 forecast would you have to see it and 231 00:07:42,970 --> 00:07:39,530 not even bother tanking Friday morning 232 00:07:44,770 --> 00:07:42,980 and for either of the mics do you get a 233 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:44,780 sense any sense at all that your work 234 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:47,210 force wouldn't mind to see a nice big 235 00:07:53,260 --> 00:07:49,730 couple of scrubs so that they could stay 236 00:07:55,420 --> 00:07:53,270 employed longer let's see the answer the 237 00:07:58,810 --> 00:07:55,430 second one it's a definite no we are not 238 00:08:00,040 --> 00:07:58,820 at all in the mode that the taking more 239 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:00,050 time to make this launch happen is a 240 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:01,910 good thing the teams ready they're 241 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:03,440 they're prepared everything's in the 242 00:08:08,110 --> 00:08:05,120 right spot this is a normal countdown 243 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:08,120 for us it's time to go and so we're more 244 00:08:14,380 --> 00:08:10,730 than ready so there's no feeling of a 245 00:08:18,490 --> 00:08:14,390 scrub is a good thing the is too far how 246 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:18,500 bad the forecast has to be yeah yeah I 247 00:08:21,370 --> 00:08:20,090 only know of one way to make it a 248 00:08:22,750 --> 00:08:21,380 hundred percent no-go forecast and 249 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:22,760 that's to not put proponent in the tank 250 00:08:28,090 --> 00:08:24,890 so I'll leave it at that 251 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:28,100 so I've tanked before it at 70% no-go 252 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:29,930 the program we've tanked at 90 percent 253 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:31,730 no-go and launched that day we've also 254 00:08:35,980 --> 00:08:33,770 tanked it 20 percent go and scrub that 255 00:08:38,409 --> 00:08:35,990 day so the forecast is a forecast and 256 00:08:40,300 --> 00:08:38,419 even 12 hours out it's still a forecast 257 00:08:42,100 --> 00:08:40,310 yeah it really kind of depends on my 258 00:08:44,050 --> 00:08:42,110 mind too and why can I talk about it a 259 00:08:45,910 --> 00:08:44,060 lot before tanking it depends on my mind 260 00:08:48,430 --> 00:08:45,920 on the confidence of the forecast that 261 00:08:50,260 --> 00:08:48,440 we hear from Cathy and her team if it's 262 00:08:51,970 --> 00:08:50,270 been a steady forecast for a couple of 263 00:08:53,410 --> 00:08:51,980 three days and and has a lot of 264 00:08:54,199 --> 00:08:53,420 confidence in that then and we can 265 00:08:55,790 --> 00:08:54,209 pretty much take 266 00:08:58,009 --> 00:08:55,800 to the bank even though it's another 10 267 00:08:59,329 --> 00:08:58,019 hours away if it's waffling back and 268 00:09:01,280 --> 00:08:59,339 forth between the models then you know 269 00:09:04,489 --> 00:09:01,290 we'd be more inclined to give it a shot 270 00:09:07,369 --> 00:09:04,499 and see what we get at t0 relative to 271 00:09:09,590 --> 00:09:07,379 the team it's like game day a big big 272 00:09:11,239 --> 00:09:09,600 sporting event game day Friday's game 273 00:09:12,379 --> 00:09:11,249 day for us so we don't want to see we 274 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:12,389 don't want to wait for Saturday and we 275 00:09:18,410 --> 00:09:14,569 want to we want to play the game Friday 276 00:09:21,739 --> 00:09:18,420 mark mark Kirkman interspace news for 277 00:09:23,660 --> 00:09:21,749 Mike Moses just a recap on what you're 278 00:09:27,429 --> 00:09:23,670 thinking going into getting that extra 279 00:09:29,869 --> 00:09:27,439 mission day if if you do weigh and can't 280 00:09:32,210 --> 00:09:29,879 and you have to go Saturday is there any 281 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:32,220 way to regain that day without with the 282 00:09:37,460 --> 00:09:35,850 loss of that PRS D and let's with the 283 00:09:39,230 --> 00:09:37,470 forecast looking like it is for Saturday 284 00:09:41,689 --> 00:09:39,240 and better option Sunday would you let 285 00:09:43,699 --> 00:09:41,699 the desire to get that extra day back 286 00:09:47,689 --> 00:09:43,709 and drive you into 48 hours and maybe 287 00:09:50,689 --> 00:09:47,699 top off the PRS d so the math ahead of 288 00:09:54,350 --> 00:09:50,699 time shows if you if we try on the 8th 289 00:09:55,999 --> 00:09:54,360 and then scrub and go on the 9th will be 290 00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:56,009 will be a little shorter and I forget 291 00:09:59,419 --> 00:09:57,360 the exact numbers but it's in the for 292 00:10:01,549 --> 00:09:59,429 our range short of getting that extra 293 00:10:04,129 --> 00:10:01,559 day but that's still based on predicted 294 00:10:05,869 --> 00:10:04,139 consumables we might find that the the 295 00:10:08,509 --> 00:10:05,879 the mid-deck payloads don't use as much 296 00:10:11,359 --> 00:10:08,519 powers we were planning the crew we 297 00:10:12,619 --> 00:10:11,369 budget certain you know it'd be like 298 00:10:14,569 --> 00:10:12,629 thinking about trying to predict ahead 299 00:10:16,129 --> 00:10:14,579 of time exactly how many lights you're 300 00:10:18,379 --> 00:10:16,139 gonna have on your house at every given 301 00:10:19,340 --> 00:10:18,389 minute of every day we kind of take an 302 00:10:21,530 --> 00:10:19,350 assumption the crew may or may not 303 00:10:23,239 --> 00:10:21,540 follow that that assumption so we're 304 00:10:25,340 --> 00:10:23,249 gonna go ahead and press with the 305 00:10:26,660 --> 00:10:25,350 keeping the mplm shell heaters off with 306 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:26,670 the anticipation that we'll continue to 307 00:10:31,910 --> 00:10:29,490 buy back propellant or cry out cryo for 308 00:10:34,449 --> 00:10:31,920 the fuel cells and and so we'll still 309 00:10:36,739 --> 00:10:34,459 try for that and as we talked it FRR 310 00:10:37,910 --> 00:10:36,749 it's a it's highly desired to get the 311 00:10:40,639 --> 00:10:37,920 extra day but it's not going to drive us 312 00:10:41,900 --> 00:10:40,649 to do anything like like do a top off if 313 00:10:43,460 --> 00:10:41,910 we don't really have to we'll go ahead 314 00:10:44,989 --> 00:10:43,470 and and let the vehicle sit on the pad 315 00:10:46,129 --> 00:10:44,999 and boil off if that's the right thing 316 00:10:48,650 --> 00:10:46,139 to do to give us the right number launch 317 00:10:49,730 --> 00:10:48,660 attempt so but if we knew we had a big 318 00:10:53,329 --> 00:10:49,740 stand down come and we would obviously 319 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:53,339 take that opportunity to top off 48 is a 320 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:54,809 very tight push Michael tell you that 321 00:10:59,059 --> 00:10:56,850 that's off like a 49 hour operation on a 322 00:11:00,470 --> 00:10:59,069 48 hour time line so just doing it 323 00:11:02,059 --> 00:11:00,480 because he's not really the right answer 324 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:02,069 so we would not ask them to do that for 325 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:02,910 that reason 326 00:11:06,110 --> 00:11:04,620 yeah we've looked at it over and over 327 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:06,120 again in fact we've only ever done it 328 00:11:10,340 --> 00:11:07,649 once it stopped off 329 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:10,350 commodity and the 48 hours and it was 330 00:11:14,119 --> 00:11:12,600 very very tight we made at that time but 331 00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:14,129 but as I tell Mikey no we just can't 332 00:11:17,929 --> 00:11:16,019 guarantee that we'll give it a best shot 333 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:17,939 if that's what we what we choose to do 334 00:11:23,569 --> 00:11:19,110 but there's no guarantee you can even 335 00:11:26,869 --> 00:11:23,579 get it done Jim Jim Siegel celebration 336 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:26,879 independent newspaper I understand that 337 00:11:32,509 --> 00:11:29,850 a number of compartments have been put 338 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:32,519 aside for mementos and that sort of 339 00:11:36,139 --> 00:11:33,929 thing on the flight and I wondered if 340 00:11:37,879 --> 00:11:36,149 you could give us a rundown if you know 341 00:11:39,739 --> 00:11:37,889 of the kinds of things that are going to 342 00:11:42,019 --> 00:11:39,749 be carried aboard the shuttle especially 343 00:11:47,329 --> 00:11:42,029 anything kind of unique this being the 344 00:11:48,470 --> 00:11:47,339 the last mission actually we can get it 345 00:11:50,269 --> 00:11:48,480 get you a list and there'll be an 346 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:50,279 extensive payload briefing tomorrow at 347 00:11:54,669 --> 00:11:52,290 the L minus 1 countdown status briefing 348 00:11:59,509 --> 00:11:54,679 so we can get that for you afterward 349 00:12:02,689 --> 00:11:59,519 okay we'll come over here now a second 350 00:12:05,210 --> 00:12:02,699 row please John businees sirius XM 351 00:12:07,730 --> 00:12:05,220 satellite radio mike is there a sense 352 00:12:10,460 --> 00:12:07,740 among the team we've done this so many 353 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:10,470 times before this is the last one many 354 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:11,730 more eyes are on us 355 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:14,910 thank goodness nothing's biting us well 356 00:12:21,290 --> 00:12:19,410 I guess this Michael answer that you 357 00:12:24,379 --> 00:12:21,300 know when when you get on console in the 358 00:12:26,900 --> 00:12:24,389 control room on launch day we're 359 00:12:30,199 --> 00:12:26,910 oblivious to the outside world looking 360 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:30,209 at us and that's an absolute truism we 361 00:12:32,869 --> 00:12:31,290 have our jobs to do and we're 362 00:12:35,389 --> 00:12:32,879 concentrating very serious about it 363 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:35,399 obviously so leading into it yeah we 364 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:36,689 know there's a lot more interest in the 365 00:12:41,179 --> 00:12:38,850 final launch but when we're on console 366 00:12:42,949 --> 00:12:41,189 Friday morning it's going to be like any 367 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:42,959 other launch well we will launch if the 368 00:12:47,989 --> 00:12:44,610 vehicle is ready and we won't if it's 369 00:12:50,179 --> 00:12:47,999 not I guess the sense of my question was 370 00:12:51,410 --> 00:12:50,189 sort of a professional pride that thank 371 00:12:53,389 --> 00:12:51,420 goodness nothing's biting us we've done 372 00:12:55,179 --> 00:12:53,399 our job so well that here we are looking 373 00:12:58,129 --> 00:12:55,189 at the weather is the only showstopper 374 00:12:59,360 --> 00:12:58,139 yeah that's a funny one too because we 375 00:13:02,269 --> 00:12:59,370 always want to have something to talk 376 00:13:04,669 --> 00:13:02,279 about and if there's absolutely nothing 377 00:13:06,049 --> 00:13:04,679 then then we start to really worry so at 378 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:06,059 the mission management team briefing 379 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:07,230 this morning I talked about a little 380 00:13:11,470 --> 00:13:08,850 issue with our tachyons system at the 381 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:11,480 SLS this is an issue we have probably 382 00:13:14,780 --> 00:13:13,889 20% of the time at the TAC hands system 383 00:13:17,809 --> 00:13:14,790 but it was the only thing to talk about 384 00:13:19,639 --> 00:13:17,819 so we did it it's a type of thing where 385 00:13:21,060 --> 00:13:19,649 you know we're all engineers we need 386 00:13:23,130 --> 00:13:21,070 something to worry about 387 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:23,140 so that that was today's worry it's 388 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:27,730 fixed by the way David chuckman BBC News 389 00:13:30,990 --> 00:13:29,650 another Brit obsessed with the weather I 390 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:31,000 could you just talk through the process 391 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:35,440 of if you 1:30 a.m. on Friday starts the 392 00:13:41,930 --> 00:13:38,050 tanking how difficult is it to stop it 393 00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:41,940 if you if the weather changes question 4 394 00:13:46,380 --> 00:13:44,260 so we have a couple of decision point 395 00:13:47,970 --> 00:13:46,390 milestones and the the decision to start 396 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:47,980 the tanking or not actually that we can 397 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:49,930 even back up further so tomorrow whether 398 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:52,000 we retract the RSS or not and roll the 399 00:13:55,260 --> 00:13:53,890 RSS back is of weather there's weather 400 00:13:57,270 --> 00:13:55,270 criteria that go with that go no-go 401 00:13:59,970 --> 00:13:57,280 decision and we can delay it quite a bit 402 00:14:01,620 --> 00:13:59,980 and as we've practiced a lot lately and 403 00:14:03,780 --> 00:14:01,630 and still make that so that's obviously 404 00:14:05,490 --> 00:14:03,790 that has to get done and to support the 405 00:14:08,340 --> 00:14:05,500 timeline to be ready to start tanking at 406 00:14:09,810 --> 00:14:08,350 at 2 a.m. tomorrow or Friday morning so 407 00:14:11,790 --> 00:14:09,820 then right before we start that we'll 408 00:14:13,530 --> 00:14:11,800 have a decision to say hey before we go 409 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:13,540 through the act of doing this because it 410 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:16,090 is a big hazardous operation do we have 411 00:14:19,230 --> 00:14:17,890 a better than decent chance of launching 412 00:14:20,940 --> 00:14:19,240 that day and are there any other 413 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:20,950 considerations to say maybe there's a 414 00:14:25,020 --> 00:14:22,450 better day coming we want to save that 415 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:25,030 chance to go once we start tanking at 416 00:14:28,140 --> 00:14:26,530 that point we'd pretty much proceed on 417 00:14:29,310 --> 00:14:28,150 we wouldn't have decided to do it unless 418 00:14:31,710 --> 00:14:29,320 we thought the weather was going to be 419 00:14:33,060 --> 00:14:31,720 good if there's there's there's commit 420 00:14:36,270 --> 00:14:33,070 criteria that have to be satisfied as 421 00:14:37,290 --> 00:14:36,280 you go weather-related that could stop 422 00:14:39,390 --> 00:14:37,300 us I think it's only within the first 423 00:14:41,850 --> 00:14:39,400 half hour Mike yeah first hour that the 424 00:14:43,820 --> 00:14:41,860 lightning lightning rules apply and so 425 00:14:46,050 --> 00:14:43,830 after that we really switch into a 426 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:46,060 launch commit criteria there's there's a 427 00:14:49,470 --> 00:14:47,890 series of column red light green light 428 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:49,480 gates that have to be passed and as long 429 00:14:53,610 --> 00:14:51,790 as everything's green we proceed on even 430 00:14:55,710 --> 00:14:53,620 though the ultimate launch weather might 431 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:55,720 still be showing red we'd go right up 432 00:15:00,240 --> 00:14:58,450 until whatever milestone we chose to say 433 00:15:02,580 --> 00:15:00,250 we don't want to go behind usually we 434 00:15:03,780 --> 00:15:02,590 call that at t-minus nine minutes one 435 00:15:05,580 --> 00:15:03,790 thing Mike and I've talked about that 436 00:15:07,380 --> 00:15:05,590 because of the traffic concerns on a 437 00:15:09,030 --> 00:15:07,390 scrub we don't know that we could get 438 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:09,040 everybody back 24 hours later and have 439 00:15:13,050 --> 00:15:10,690 the whole team ready to support with all 440 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:13,060 the traffic delays getting home if we 441 00:15:16,890 --> 00:15:14,830 get inside of about four hours or so we 442 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:16,900 might want to scrub out for 48 hours 443 00:15:20,970 --> 00:15:19,600 instead of just 24 so if at the four 444 00:15:22,260 --> 00:15:20,980 hour mark we're gonna take another look 445 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:22,270 at the weather and if it still really 446 00:15:26,490 --> 00:15:24,400 truly looks horrible and there's just no 447 00:15:28,020 --> 00:15:26,500 chance of going we might choose then to 448 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:28,030 scrub something we probably wouldn't 449 00:15:31,470 --> 00:15:29,890 have done in the past because we didn't 450 00:15:32,790 --> 00:15:31,480 have this traffic concerns so there's 451 00:15:34,260 --> 00:15:32,800 all those little milestones that Mike 452 00:15:34,860 --> 00:15:34,270 and I'll have as we make our decisions 453 00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:34,870 as we go 454 00:15:38,850 --> 00:15:37,120 but there's no real all the weather's 455 00:15:40,650 --> 00:15:38,860 too bad stop right now kind of call 456 00:15:45,420 --> 00:15:40,660 until you get actual launch weather on 457 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:45,430 the t0 the actual second of launch back 458 00:15:48,660 --> 00:15:47,110 over here with Bill please bill Harwood 459 00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:48,670 CBS News with two quick ones one for 460 00:15:52,079 --> 00:15:49,839 Kathy is is this the kind of weather 461 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:52,089 they can generate hail once the RSS is 462 00:15:57,030 --> 00:15:54,850 back no it's more of a tropical type 463 00:15:58,620 --> 00:15:57,040 airmass we're moist all the way through 464 00:16:00,120 --> 00:15:58,630 the profile usually if we have some dry 465 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:00,130 air aloft and some cooler air aloft 466 00:16:04,079 --> 00:16:02,410 we're watching for hail but in this case 467 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:04,089 we're pretty warm aloft for the next 468 00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:05,770 several days and we're also very moist 469 00:16:08,579 --> 00:16:07,060 all the way through the profile so we're 470 00:16:10,260 --> 00:16:08,589 really not looking for severe weather at 471 00:16:13,710 --> 00:16:10,270 all with this system or looking just 472 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:13,720 more just a lot of nuisance weather Mike 473 00:16:16,890 --> 00:16:15,370 Leinbach I know that on launch day when 474 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:16,900 you guys in the furn room you focus I 475 00:16:20,340 --> 00:16:18,490 understand that completely but you're 476 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:20,350 not in the phone room right now and when 477 00:16:23,910 --> 00:16:21,850 you drive to work I'm just wondering 478 00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:23,920 what you're thinking about is this final 479 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:26,560 launch campaign drives down I mean you 480 00:16:29,070 --> 00:16:27,610 know I mean just driving in the day I 481 00:16:30,390 --> 00:16:29,080 was looking at the VAB and looking at 482 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:30,400 people and thinking this is going to be 483 00:16:36,180 --> 00:16:33,670 different very soon what is the mood 484 00:16:37,740 --> 00:16:36,190 like out there well you know as I 485 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:37,750 described the other day it's it's 486 00:16:40,579 --> 00:16:39,250 getting more and more somber the closer 487 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:40,589 we're getting to the end of the program 488 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:44,290 you know there are people millions of 489 00:16:48,660 --> 00:16:46,810 people in this country that have grown 490 00:16:50,910 --> 00:16:48,670 up with the shuttle program and have 491 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:50,920 never been alive without the shuttle 492 00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:52,810 flying and anyone under the age of 30 493 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:54,880 has always had the shuttle program as a 494 00:17:00,510 --> 00:16:57,610 part of Americana and that we won't have 495 00:17:03,269 --> 00:17:00,520 anymore and so it did I think it touches 496 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:03,279 people outside the Space Center to a 497 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:06,130 degree as well inside the Space Center 498 00:17:10,169 --> 00:17:07,890 it's going to be significantly different 499 00:17:11,579 --> 00:17:10,179 we'll be preparing for the next program 500 00:17:14,189 --> 00:17:11,589 and hopefully we get definition on that 501 00:17:15,780 --> 00:17:14,199 relatively soon and we'll get up get on 502 00:17:18,890 --> 00:17:15,790 the business about preparing the Space 503 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:18,900 Center for the next the next program it 504 00:17:23,549 --> 00:17:20,770 I'll tell you it's getting more and more 505 00:17:25,169 --> 00:17:23,559 somber the closer it gets and but that 506 00:17:27,449 --> 00:17:25,179 doesn't detract from the professionalism 507 00:17:29,419 --> 00:17:27,459 and cohesiveness of this team that I've 508 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:29,429 grown to love so much over the years 509 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:32,890 okay Irene please thanks Irene Klotz 510 00:17:38,370 --> 00:17:35,050 with Reuters I have two questions for 511 00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:38,380 Mike Leinbach what's the plan for pad 512 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:40,270 39a after launch 513 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:43,330 well you guys have people go in and do 514 00:17:47,830 --> 00:17:45,190 inspections and make repairs or do you 515 00:17:50,529 --> 00:17:47,840 just leave it until some 516 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:50,539 thing there's some directive of what to 517 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:51,080 do with it 518 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:52,850 well see well we'll go through our 519 00:17:57,850 --> 00:17:55,250 standard post-launch saving and securing 520 00:18:00,669 --> 00:17:57,860 operations we send out a team of about 521 00:18:02,230 --> 00:18:00,679 50 folks maybe on the order of 45 522 00:18:03,940 --> 00:18:02,240 minutes or so after launch to make sure 523 00:18:06,010 --> 00:18:03,950 the no leaks or fires that type of thing 524 00:18:07,570 --> 00:18:06,020 if there's any damage will repair that 525 00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:07,580 damage just to get the systems in good 526 00:18:10,899 --> 00:18:08,480 shape 527 00:18:13,330 --> 00:18:10,909 from an agency perspective what we're 528 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:13,340 being asked to do is keep pate and and 529 00:18:16,990 --> 00:18:15,289 shuttle shape is the way I describe it 530 00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:17,000 don't you know we're not going to start 531 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:18,559 dismantling pate right away 532 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:20,809 we need to keep it in a roughly shuttle 533 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:22,250 shape in case the next program could 534 00:18:26,529 --> 00:18:23,840 utilize some of those facilities out 535 00:18:28,090 --> 00:18:26,539 there unlike pad B where we're taking it 536 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:28,100 all the way down to the ground so we're 537 00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:29,929 going to have a clean pad off pad B if 538 00:18:33,490 --> 00:18:32,000 anyone wants to come and launch off that 539 00:18:34,990 --> 00:18:33,500 pad with their own mobile launcher in 540 00:18:37,419 --> 00:18:35,000 their own Tower and their own services 541 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:37,429 and then pate will remain relatively the 542 00:18:41,649 --> 00:18:39,289 same for a period of time and I can't 543 00:18:43,570 --> 00:18:41,659 tell you that period of time yet but we 544 00:18:47,409 --> 00:18:43,580 will not go right into an immediate 545 00:18:50,169 --> 00:18:47,419 demolition of pad a by any means and the 546 00:18:52,330 --> 00:18:50,179 next question is for either of you aside 547 00:18:55,299 --> 00:18:52,340 from talking about takin's did you was 548 00:18:57,460 --> 00:18:55,309 there any comments to the team either 549 00:19:00,940 --> 00:18:57,470 before the start of the account or at 550 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:00,950 the MMT today that that puts some 551 00:19:08,529 --> 00:19:02,809 framework and some context for this 552 00:19:12,010 --> 00:19:08,539 being the last flight so at the MMT 553 00:19:13,870 --> 00:19:12,020 today we didn't at the very end I gave 554 00:19:15,580 --> 00:19:13,880 the team just a reminder that there's a 555 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:15,590 lot of distractions and and you know 556 00:19:18,220 --> 00:19:16,970 their jobs to make sure their teams got 557 00:19:20,769 --> 00:19:18,230 what they needed and are ready to talk 558 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:20,779 and just stay on our normal processes 559 00:19:24,610 --> 00:19:23,330 and procedures that one thing that helps 560 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:24,620 minimize those distractions is just 561 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:26,450 treat this as business as usual so know 562 00:19:31,389 --> 00:19:28,490 nothing about a speech about this being 563 00:19:33,820 --> 00:19:31,399 last launch I'll add a little bit in the 564 00:19:37,269 --> 00:19:33,830 pretest briefing I consciously told and 565 00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:37,279 told myself not to not to lecture the 566 00:19:42,190 --> 00:19:39,679 team we've been told so often over the 567 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:42,200 last three to six months to a year to 568 00:19:47,529 --> 00:19:45,770 focus focus focus and we are focused we 569 00:19:49,090 --> 00:19:47,539 don't need to be told that again and and 570 00:19:54,460 --> 00:19:49,100 so I didn't want to I didn't want to lay 571 00:19:58,060 --> 00:19:54,470 that on my team again James James DeMuth 572 00:20:00,190 --> 00:19:58,070 Florida today Mike Moses shuttle flying 573 00:20:01,210 --> 00:20:00,200 up crew and cargo to serve as a Space 574 00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:01,220 Station kind of 575 00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:05,030 what it was originally intended to do 576 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:07,760 imagine that it would do in its concept 577 00:20:13,659 --> 00:20:11,090 when it wouldn't when it was just an 578 00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:13,669 idea you know decades ago so I guess 579 00:20:17,289 --> 00:20:14,960 maybe a little strange to be ending 580 00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:17,299 while it's performing that service but 581 00:20:21,850 --> 00:20:20,000 you see some maybe symbolism or 582 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:21,860 satisfaction in it and the last mission 583 00:20:25,870 --> 00:20:24,770 kind of doing exactly what the the goal 584 00:20:28,029 --> 00:20:25,880 was from the start 585 00:20:29,470 --> 00:20:28,039 yeah you look back at the one of the 586 00:20:30,580 --> 00:20:29,480 original design features of the shuttle 587 00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:30,590 was to be able to enable the 588 00:20:35,380 --> 00:20:32,840 construction of the space station and we 589 00:20:37,630 --> 00:20:35,390 did just that and we built built a heck 590 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:37,640 of a national asset up in orbit and a 591 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:40,130 National Laboratory an international 592 00:20:44,620 --> 00:20:43,010 asset to shouldn't just focus on the 593 00:20:46,899 --> 00:20:44,630 American part of this it's truly an 594 00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:46,909 international partnership that alone is 595 00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:48,559 a great legacy of the shuttle 596 00:20:51,669 --> 00:20:49,760 programming that we enabled the 597 00:20:55,210 --> 00:20:51,679 construction of that of that facility so 598 00:20:57,250 --> 00:20:55,220 yeah there is some poetic completeness 599 00:20:58,899 --> 00:20:57,260 to the fact that that we're basically 600 00:21:01,480 --> 00:20:58,909 going to go stock it up for a year and 601 00:21:03,580 --> 00:21:01,490 and ensure its viability in the coming 602 00:21:05,049 --> 00:21:03,590 in the coming times while with the the 603 00:21:06,279 --> 00:21:05,059 next generation of service craft get up 604 00:21:12,250 --> 00:21:06,289 there to to take care of the space 605 00:21:14,020 --> 00:21:12,260 station and Mike Leinbach how important 606 00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:14,030 will it be if we're fortunate enough to 607 00:21:19,930 --> 00:21:15,919 get a Florida landing assuming you you 608 00:21:21,730 --> 00:21:19,940 get off first you know how what do you 609 00:21:24,340 --> 00:21:21,740 think your feelings will be just getting 610 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:24,350 Atlantis back as you know our shuttle as 611 00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:27,830 we're calling it for you personally your 612 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:30,799 teammates who will you know still be 613 00:21:36,340 --> 00:21:34,010 here before for wheelstop and all to 614 00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:36,350 just know and that's that's the vehicle 615 00:21:41,890 --> 00:21:39,919 is staying here how important will that 616 00:21:43,630 --> 00:21:41,900 be to see it come here if well what 617 00:21:46,810 --> 00:21:43,640 atlantis at last will be home for the 618 00:21:48,940 --> 00:21:46,820 for the duration of her life to be sure 619 00:21:50,529 --> 00:21:48,950 and I think I speak for everyone at KSC 620 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:50,539 that it would really stink if we landed 621 00:21:59,720 --> 00:21:58,250 but the aintry flight director Tony 622 00:22:02,030 --> 00:21:59,730 he'll do the right thing and if we go 623 00:22:03,380 --> 00:22:02,040 west we go west that's fine but we all 624 00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:03,390 want to see Atlantis come home here and 625 00:22:07,730 --> 00:22:04,710 celebrate with the crew when they get 626 00:22:09,290 --> 00:22:07,740 off the vehicle and be able to look at 627 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:09,300 Atlantis and the great things she's done 628 00:22:14,780 --> 00:22:11,130 over her career and be thankful to that 629 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:14,790 she's home safe we'll go over here on 630 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:16,130 the end please 631 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:18,810 Sawyer Rosenstein for talking space for 632 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:20,250 either Mike 633 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:22,050 I was wondering besides you know 634 00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,450 bringing up supplies and made the extra 635 00:22:29,210 --> 00:22:27,120 days added for the the load on the 636 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:29,220 four-person crew I was wondering if 637 00:22:32,210 --> 00:22:30,450 there's anything that you plan to do 638 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:32,220 differently when the shuttle is at the 639 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:33,450 station than you would normally do on a 640 00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:38,130 mission let's see there's some of the 641 00:22:40,940 --> 00:22:40,080 timeline sequencing has changed just a 642 00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:40,950 little bit to accommodate that 643 00:22:44,990 --> 00:22:43,830 four-person crew but most of the tasks 644 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:45,000 are done on the same days that they 645 00:22:50,510 --> 00:22:48,690 would be done most notably is the the 646 00:22:52,430 --> 00:22:50,520 GPS the thermal protection inspections 647 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:52,440 we do on flight day two and then after 648 00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:54,450 we undock that's a very intensive 649 00:22:58,820 --> 00:22:56,910 robotic operation and we usually have 650 00:23:01,040 --> 00:22:58,830 that time lined and typically when we 651 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:01,050 lay out the timeline it runs for six to 652 00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:03,090 seven hours and we schedule a an hour 653 00:23:05,570 --> 00:23:04,320 lunch break for the crew but they 654 00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:05,580 typically work right through it and just 655 00:23:08,990 --> 00:23:07,260 trade off crewmen on a four person crew 656 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:09,000 we actually expect them to stop any 657 00:23:12,380 --> 00:23:10,530 lunch rather than continue to work 658 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:12,390 through lunch so that's probably the 659 00:23:16,670 --> 00:23:14,490 most notable difference the rendezvous 660 00:23:17,870 --> 00:23:16,680 profiles all the same then the tools 661 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:17,880 they they'll use and the way they 662 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:20,370 execute will all be the same one thing 663 00:23:22,550 --> 00:23:21,450 we're doing different which doesn't have 664 00:23:24,860 --> 00:23:22,560 anything to do with the four-person crew 665 00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:24,870 but after we undock when we do a fly 666 00:23:28,430 --> 00:23:26,190 around normally we do the fly around 667 00:23:30,050 --> 00:23:28,440 around the x-axis and you see the solar 668 00:23:31,940 --> 00:23:30,060 arrays pointing straight out as we fly 669 00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:31,950 around this time we're going to back out 670 00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:33,440 and let the station turn 90 degrees 671 00:23:37,820 --> 00:23:36,300 point that long truss at us and then fly 672 00:23:39,530 --> 00:23:37,830 around the long axis of the station just 673 00:23:41,210 --> 00:23:39,540 give us a different set of engineering 674 00:23:43,010 --> 00:23:41,220 views there's Hardware out on the ends 675 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:43,020 of those trusses that we don't get very 676 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:44,640 high resolution photos all the time and 677 00:23:48,350 --> 00:23:46,170 so this will be the last chance to get 678 00:23:50,420 --> 00:23:48,360 some good documentation you know we 679 00:23:51,650 --> 00:23:50,430 learned a lot that fly around looks real 680 00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:51,660 pretty and lets us take pictures but 681 00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:52,980 it's got a true engineering purpose and 682 00:23:56,900 --> 00:23:55,140 it evaluates the state and the health of 683 00:23:58,700 --> 00:23:56,910 all those things outside there's a the 684 00:24:00,440 --> 00:23:58,710 atomic oxygen environment the marker 685 00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:00,450 meteorite debris our environment on the 686 00:24:03,620 --> 00:24:02,430 outside of the station is is it's a 687 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:03,630 hazardous environment up there and we'd 688 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:05,610 like to know what's what's condition the 689 00:24:08,830 --> 00:24:07,290 station's in so that's a unique thing 690 00:24:09,580 --> 00:24:08,840 we're doing on this mission but 691 00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:09,590 doesn't have anything to do with our 692 00:24:12,430 --> 00:24:11,120 four-person crew it is just the chance 693 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:12,440 to do that so that's really that's 694 00:24:18,940 --> 00:24:16,970 really it for this mission at arc thank 695 00:24:20,919 --> 00:24:18,950 you tarik Malek with the space lock home 696 00:24:22,029 --> 00:24:20,929 I think I have two quick ones first for 697 00:24:24,669 --> 00:24:22,039 Kathy I'm just wondering you know you 698 00:24:26,350 --> 00:24:24,679 talked a lot about the weather for those 699 00:24:28,060 --> 00:24:26,360 of us that maybe don't live in Florida 700 00:24:29,169 --> 00:24:28,070 all the time I'm just wondering is it is 701 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:29,179 it difficult it's strange 702 00:24:35,529 --> 00:24:31,970 is it is it just what you'd expect for a 703 00:24:37,419 --> 00:24:35,539 July in in Florida it is pretty typical 704 00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:37,429 we get these easterly waves you know 705 00:24:41,470 --> 00:24:39,200 later in the season they might even 706 00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:41,480 become something tropical in this case 707 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:43,760 it's it is a tropical way but it's not 708 00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:45,529 going to develop into anything more than 709 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:48,230 that and they just roll in and we tend 710 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:50,090 to get a lot of rain with them not as 711 00:24:54,250 --> 00:24:51,890 much lightning as we would on a typical 712 00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:54,260 afternoon thunderstorm day but it is not 713 00:24:57,580 --> 00:24:55,760 unusual for us to get these easterly 714 00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:57,590 waves through and have them come into 715 00:25:03,340 --> 00:24:59,679 the area and give us a lot of weather 716 00:25:04,539 --> 00:25:03,350 thank you and from Mike Leinbach you 717 00:25:05,950 --> 00:25:04,549 know I'm just wondering it is the last 718 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:05,960 shuttle mission and I know that the 719 00:25:09,820 --> 00:25:08,210 schedules relatively busy as you guys 720 00:25:11,169 --> 00:25:09,830 count down but I'm wondering if you or 721 00:25:13,450 --> 00:25:11,179 any of your team if anyone's taking the 722 00:25:16,029 --> 00:25:13,460 time when they've got it to either just 723 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:16,039 you know gaze at the shuttle maybe go 724 00:25:20,590 --> 00:25:18,890 out do a last walk down give it a pat if 725 00:25:22,690 --> 00:25:20,600 you have a chance you know is there 726 00:25:25,299 --> 00:25:22,700 anything like that that you're doing or 727 00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:25,309 would you like to we've done quite a few 728 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:27,830 things like that already at arc we of 729 00:25:31,419 --> 00:25:29,690 course will roll out well even before 730 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:31,429 roll out when Atlantis came over to the 731 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:33,289 Vehicle Assembly Building from the from 732 00:25:37,779 --> 00:25:35,570 the OPF we stopped for a couple hours 733 00:25:39,610 --> 00:25:37,789 several hours and and and had people 734 00:25:41,049 --> 00:25:39,620 stand up next to vehicle and get 735 00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:41,059 pictures of themselves of their team 736 00:25:45,580 --> 00:25:43,760 with the vehicle you know we had the the 737 00:25:46,930 --> 00:25:45,590 roll out event the night of a roll out 738 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:46,940 where we lit the vehicle up with the 739 00:25:52,029 --> 00:25:49,570 Xenon's and had and family members over 740 00:25:54,220 --> 00:25:52,039 3500 I believe it was family members out 741 00:25:55,779 --> 00:25:54,230 here watching the roll out now at the 742 00:25:58,210 --> 00:25:55,789 launch pad we've had special walk downs 743 00:25:59,649 --> 00:25:58,220 when we got to the pad we left the RSS 744 00:26:01,990 --> 00:25:59,659 retracted for a period of time so we 745 00:26:03,490 --> 00:26:02,000 could take more pictures so and that's 746 00:26:06,669 --> 00:26:03,500 been common for the last three vehicles 747 00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:06,679 all the the lasts not just Atlantis so 748 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:08,960 we've made a conscious effort to to 749 00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:11,090 celebrate these machines and and and 750 00:26:15,399 --> 00:26:13,070 have people who come out and view them 751 00:26:16,810 --> 00:26:15,409 and have their picture taken and a lot 752 00:26:18,909 --> 00:26:16,820 of times it's people that don't get to 753 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:18,919 work on the on the vehicles it could be 754 00:26:22,330 --> 00:26:19,850 you know folks in the headquarters 755 00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:22,340 building or elsewhere around the center 756 00:26:25,539 --> 00:26:23,929 that don't typically get to interact 757 00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:25,549 with the vehicles in it that makes it a 758 00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:27,830 very special day for them so we've gone 759 00:26:31,899 --> 00:26:30,080 quite the extra mile to make sure that 760 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:31,909 that people are able to celebrate this 761 00:26:40,810 --> 00:26:38,210 fantastic machine todd halvorson Florida 762 00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:40,820 today from Mike Leinbach Charlie Bolden 763 00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,049 at the National Press Club last Friday 764 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:46,640 hinted at the possibility that 765 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:49,850 commercial companies may be taking up 766 00:26:54,730 --> 00:26:51,890 residence in the orbiter processing 767 00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:54,740 facility bays and I'm wondering what 768 00:27:00,299 --> 00:26:56,960 your thoughts are about the facilities 769 00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:00,309 here and their potential utilizations by 770 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:03,590 next-generation spacious well see there 771 00:27:08,529 --> 00:27:06,289 been no no deals cut yet for any of our 772 00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,539 facilities there are negotiations going 773 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:10,159 on with some companies that I'm not at 774 00:27:15,549 --> 00:27:13,130 liberty to address personally I'd love 775 00:27:16,990 --> 00:27:15,559 to see the facilities used the worst 776 00:27:19,149 --> 00:27:17,000 thing you can do with a facility like 777 00:27:21,490 --> 00:27:19,159 the OPF or the VAB or a launch pad is to 778 00:27:24,190 --> 00:27:21,500 leave it empty and unoccupied and unused 779 00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:24,200 and so if we can attract other customers 780 00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:25,820 there I'd be the first one to go up 781 00:27:29,710 --> 00:27:27,289 there and help them in and cut the 782 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:29,720 ribbon because I think it's a capability 783 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:32,450 that this country has that is going to 784 00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:33,890 transition from the government shuttle 785 00:27:38,350 --> 00:27:36,710 program to potentially and hopefully 786 00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:38,360 other users and and so I'll be the first 787 00:27:45,159 --> 00:27:40,460 one to welcome them here and help them 788 00:27:45,789 --> 00:27:45,169 in any way I can okay if we can come 789 00:27:51,490 --> 00:27:45,799 over here please 790 00:27:53,980 --> 00:27:51,500 - Ken Ken Kramer for space flight 791 00:27:56,529 --> 00:27:53,990 magazine question for both Mike's first 792 00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:56,539 Mike Moses is there any update on the on 793 00:28:00,970 --> 00:27:58,730 the valve leak finding a root cause you 794 00:28:02,889 --> 00:28:00,980 have only that very small particle and 795 00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:02,899 for Mike Leinbach and maybe you answer 796 00:28:05,980 --> 00:28:04,190 this already but I think at the last 797 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:05,990 conference you said you were gonna go 798 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:08,090 yourself out to the pad and think about 799 00:28:10,750 --> 00:28:09,289 it and consider and I wonder if you 800 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:10,760 could tell us a little bit about your 801 00:28:15,789 --> 00:28:13,730 feelings there thanks C on the valve no 802 00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:15,799 no updates they found that one piece of 803 00:28:20,529 --> 00:28:18,289 debris not enough to call it an actual 804 00:28:22,990 --> 00:28:20,539 root cause but it is a most probable so 805 00:28:24,639 --> 00:28:23,000 no update on that the valve replacement 806 00:28:26,590 --> 00:28:24,649 has passed all its leak checks and we 807 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:26,600 did our flight readiness test and that 808 00:28:29,710 --> 00:28:28,370 all passed as well so we expect wearing 809 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:29,720 a really good shape on the on the valve 810 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:32,330 replacement on the main engine C and I 811 00:28:35,890 --> 00:28:34,130 had a chance to go out to to the pad to 812 00:28:38,740 --> 00:28:35,900 look at the last one last time in the 813 00:28:41,710 --> 00:28:38,750 and it was it was kind of emotional you 814 00:28:43,930 --> 00:28:41,720 know I personally my story I applied to 815 00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:43,940 NASA in 84 after President Reagan 816 00:28:50,410 --> 00:28:47,510 proposed the first permanently manned 817 00:28:52,930 --> 00:28:50,420 space station and so I've been very very 818 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:52,940 lucky in my career I looked at some of 819 00:28:56,620 --> 00:28:54,650 the structures at the launch pad that I 820 00:28:58,650 --> 00:28:56,630 worked on when I first got hired and as 821 00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:58,660 a structural engineer at the launch pad 822 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:02,240 and of course the vehicle so I've been 823 00:29:05,140 --> 00:29:03,650 one of the luckiest guys in this in the 824 00:29:07,660 --> 00:29:05,150 world and and I took the opportunity to 825 00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:07,670 go out by myself and just spend a couple 826 00:29:13,570 --> 00:29:09,950 hours and look around and and feel good 827 00:29:17,140 --> 00:29:13,580 about things okay over here on the wall 828 00:29:19,450 --> 00:29:17,150 please yes good morning honored to be 829 00:29:23,950 --> 00:29:19,460 here met Pavley rich from the radio 830 00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:23,960 network New Zealand for whoever wants to 831 00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:27,590 answer this the lifelong inspiration 832 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:30,080 that this program is provided as one of 833 00:29:35,860 --> 00:29:33,410 the reasons that I'm here today to 834 00:29:37,299 --> 00:29:35,870 anybody who wants to give an anecdote 835 00:29:40,049 --> 00:29:37,309 have you received any international 836 00:29:42,250 --> 00:29:40,059 correspondence of any great measure 837 00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:42,260 letting you know how much this has meant 838 00:29:47,850 --> 00:29:44,510 to people and is that do you think that 839 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:47,860 will continue let's see I've gotten 840 00:29:52,299 --> 00:29:50,570 quite a few things both internationally 841 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:52,309 and nationally that same thing it's a 842 00:29:56,650 --> 00:29:54,290 it's a it's amazing how it's it's not 843 00:29:58,180 --> 00:29:56,660 just a it's not the American space 844 00:30:00,340 --> 00:29:58,190 shuttle it's a space shuttle that goes 845 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:00,350 into orbit and it's it's orbiting earth 846 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:03,050 and and and it's kind of a unique thing 847 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:04,730 that it gives you a lot of pride in what 848 00:30:09,820 --> 00:30:06,050 you're doing that that you're able to 849 00:30:12,850 --> 00:30:09,830 help help inspire folks that way and so 850 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:12,860 yeah gotten a fair bit of congratulatory 851 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:15,530 and good luck messages nothing that I 852 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:18,050 would call a remarkable or out of family 853 00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:20,570 but but I was very happy to get them and 854 00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:22,880 and very much appreciate the support you 855 00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:23,840 know it's one of those things you look 856 00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:26,240 back and it is that inspiration it's if 857 00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:27,440 it's why you're here today it's most 858 00:30:40,210 --> 00:30:37,690 James you have a follow-up James Dean 859 00:30:42,450 --> 00:30:40,220 floor today Mike Leinbach what do you 860 00:30:44,890 --> 00:30:42,460 think is going to be kind of the image 861 00:30:46,090 --> 00:30:44,900 that you'll hold in your memory of the 862 00:30:48,490 --> 00:30:46,100 spinal launch but you've seen so many 863 00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:48,500 launches each one special in its own way 864 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:51,110 I guess but you know this is it what do 865 00:30:55,390 --> 00:30:52,130 you think it's going to be the lasting 866 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:55,400 lasting impression whether it's engine 867 00:31:00,790 --> 00:30:57,530 start or clearing the tower somewhere 868 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:00,800 from there well I hope it's not like the 869 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:02,570 last launch where he only saw it for 22 870 00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:11,690 seconds Kathy so I'm hoping she's really 871 00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:14,750 blowing this forecast big-time and and 872 00:31:17,620 --> 00:31:16,310 we'll have a nice clear day but that 873 00:31:21,070 --> 00:31:17,630 doesn't seem like that's in the cards 874 00:31:23,860 --> 00:31:21,080 but yeah I don't know it's going to be 875 00:31:25,690 --> 00:31:23,870 it's going to be a an emotional day when 876 00:31:28,510 --> 00:31:25,700 it's all over we'll say a few speeches 877 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:28,520 in the firing room and and recognize the 878 00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:30,290 contribution of the team and some 879 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:33,710 special people I suspect and and then go 880 00:31:38,350 --> 00:31:35,090 have beans and cornbread for the last 881 00:31:39,910 --> 00:31:38,360 time and then yeah we the team's gonna 882 00:31:41,260 --> 00:31:39,920 do the same thing we always do to is not 883 00:31:43,930 --> 00:31:41,270 loose focus that it doesn't end until 884 00:31:45,730 --> 00:31:43,940 landing and so we're gonna stay sharpen 885 00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:45,740 and and pay attention to what we need to 886 00:31:48,970 --> 00:31:47,150 like Mike said the team will go out and 887 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:48,980 do its normal pads safing that we can 888 00:31:51,730 --> 00:31:50,090 find stuff there that might be an 889 00:31:52,570 --> 00:31:51,740 indication of a problem that we we want 890 00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,580 to investigate further 891 00:31:56,140 --> 00:31:54,320 we'll get the Boosters back and get them 892 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:56,150 into Harbor so a lot of the standard 893 00:31:59,950 --> 00:31:58,130 stuff will happen and so yeah the 894 00:32:01,360 --> 00:31:59,960 takeaways launch is going to be a memory 895 00:32:02,650 --> 00:32:01,370 but it's it's the act of the entire 896 00:32:03,790 --> 00:32:02,660 mission I think that at the end of it 897 00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:03,800 it's just going to be a conglomerate 898 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:07,670 memory of the last I hear in the back 899 00:32:11,140 --> 00:32:08,210 please 900 00:32:13,330 --> 00:32:11,150 Oh Keith cowling NASA watch comm two 901 00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:13,340 questions for Mike Leinbach first of all 902 00:32:16,570 --> 00:32:15,200 just playing on the issue of keeping 903 00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:16,580 things shut already does that mean 904 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:18,710 driving crawlers around opening doors 905 00:32:23,260 --> 00:32:21,770 using hoists is this and just a wag as 906 00:32:24,730 --> 00:32:23,270 to what you think that is in terms of 907 00:32:27,340 --> 00:32:24,740 how many people and how long that'll go 908 00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:27,350 on and second question you're the sort 909 00:32:30,430 --> 00:32:28,910 of guy that always struck me is just 910 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:30,440 going to work and doing his job and 911 00:32:35,260 --> 00:32:32,930 normally would never deter from you know 912 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:35,270 where I'm going from saying what you 913 00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:37,010 mean even though you'd like to and you 914 00:32:40,390 --> 00:32:38,480 did the about a week and a half two 915 00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:40,400 weeks ago and a lot of people heard 916 00:32:43,580 --> 00:32:41,630 about it and I've heard a lot of four 917 00:32:45,510 --> 00:32:43,590 interesting comments back 918 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:45,520 particulars of what you set aside what 919 00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:47,110 was it like what are your troops say to 920 00:32:49,950 --> 00:32:48,670 you once you you know finally said you 921 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:49,960 know this is what I think it must have 922 00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:51,730 been little unusual for you to be in 923 00:32:57,060 --> 00:32:54,400 that situation let's say first question 924 00:32:58,770 --> 00:32:57,070 we will have a certain amount of 925 00:33:01,919 --> 00:32:58,780 workforce here to keep the crawlers 926 00:33:03,630 --> 00:33:01,929 running just as you say we're literally 927 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:03,640 going through that assessment right now 928 00:33:07,290 --> 00:33:05,890 the first the first time we went through 929 00:33:08,730 --> 00:33:07,300 that assessment I think we're a bit low 930 00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:08,740 on the number of people who really 931 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:11,260 thought we needed and it's everything 932 00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:12,610 you just mentioned it's the doors on the 933 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:14,320 VA it's the cranes it's the crawlers 934 00:33:18,090 --> 00:33:16,210 it's the it's all the facilities air 935 00:33:19,710 --> 00:33:18,100 conditioning all that stuff and so we're 936 00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:19,720 going through a reassessment there of 937 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:21,910 that and may come out with a bit more 938 00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:24,010 workforce than we originally thought but 939 00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:25,270 it's not going to be a heck of a lot 940 00:33:30,780 --> 00:33:28,630 more in those days those comments I made 941 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:30,790 on on that day of that launch countdown 942 00:33:34,650 --> 00:33:33,130 Sam you know I've been a member of the 943 00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:34,660 launch team and one capacity or another 944 00:33:40,049 --> 00:33:37,929 for 22 years the last 11 of which is a 945 00:33:41,549 --> 00:33:40,059 launch director and those comments that 946 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:41,559 day were meant to be private between me 947 00:33:47,310 --> 00:33:44,650 and my launch team and so they were they 948 00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:47,320 were they were made and my team 949 00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:53,200 appreciated them dan dan billow from w e 950 00:33:57,180 --> 00:33:55,600 sh t V from Mike Moses we heard a little 951 00:33:59,340 --> 00:33:57,190 bit yesterday in the countdown status 952 00:34:01,260 --> 00:33:59,350 briefing about picking the best two out 953 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:01,270 of three days Friday Saturday and Sunday 954 00:34:06,150 --> 00:34:03,970 would you discuss your philosophy of 955 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:06,160 doing that if that's what you're doing 956 00:34:11,970 --> 00:34:08,169 and aren't Saturday and Sunday the two 957 00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:11,980 best days yeah so the problem is no 958 00:34:15,690 --> 00:34:14,409 forecast is created equal every every 959 00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:15,700 forecast is a little different and like 960 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:17,350 Mike said one of the big things we do 961 00:34:23,550 --> 00:34:20,770 between the l- three-day forecast and 962 00:34:26,010 --> 00:34:23,560 the tanking day forecast is look at how 963 00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:26,020 that forecasts stayed accurate and and 964 00:34:29,070 --> 00:34:27,280 these are the trends that were 965 00:34:30,690 --> 00:34:29,080 predicting actually showing up is the 966 00:34:32,430 --> 00:34:30,700 pattern each day what we think it is or 967 00:34:34,830 --> 00:34:32,440 are there some unusual things coming 968 00:34:36,690 --> 00:34:34,840 back and and cathy has an unbelievably 969 00:34:39,149 --> 00:34:36,700 tough job to forecast the weather and 970 00:34:41,250 --> 00:34:39,159 and the weather is not you know under 971 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:41,260 her control on much as we'd like it to 972 00:34:46,770 --> 00:34:44,649 be and so so it just comes down to 973 00:34:48,930 --> 00:34:46,780 evaluating how much do you put faith in 974 00:34:50,730 --> 00:34:48,940 that forecast based on the opportunities 975 00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:50,740 you have at the end of the day 976 00:34:55,230 --> 00:34:52,720 ultimately there is no harm in not 977 00:34:56,250 --> 00:34:55,240 launching in front of this Delta and if 978 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:56,260 we have to go to the other side of it 979 00:34:58,770 --> 00:34:56,800 will go to the 980 00:35:00,930 --> 00:34:58,780 side of it it has impacts it has 981 00:35:02,250 --> 00:35:00,940 rescheduling problems it has a whole 982 00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:02,260 bunch of things we have to do but 983 00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:04,180 there's no safety risk in moving to the 984 00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:06,700 other side of that Delta so picking the 985 00:35:09,930 --> 00:35:08,320 best two out of three it's not like I'd 986 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:09,940 say last chance I have and I'll never 987 00:35:14,430 --> 00:35:11,770 try it again and so I'm not letting that 988 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:14,440 factoring in too much but literally it 989 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:16,210 comes down to playing the what other 990 00:35:19,830 --> 00:35:17,410 factors are there how well is that 991 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:19,840 forecast holding you know not to pick 992 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:21,130 apart the forecast but if this is 993 00:35:25,380 --> 00:35:22,690 actually isn't a bad one if it's just 994 00:35:26,850 --> 00:35:25,390 cumulus clouds and rain showers as long 995 00:35:28,050 --> 00:35:26,860 as we get a hole over the pad that means 996 00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:28,060 we're not gonna fly through any and 997 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:29,440 there's nothing within the twenty mile 998 00:35:33,150 --> 00:35:31,090 circle headed towards the pad that'll be 999 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:33,160 a go day for us and it could be pouring 1000 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:34,510 rain everywhere else in the county and 1001 00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:35,890 if we get that hole in the right spot 1002 00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:37,750 the right time we can go and so from 1003 00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:39,550 that standpoint right now I'm feeling 1004 00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:42,160 pretty good about trying Friday but 1005 00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:44,260 we're not at Friday yet so I'm not gonna 1006 00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:45,700 commit to anything until we get to 1007 00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:47,710 Friday and even then we got 12 more 1008 00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:48,880 hours before we actually have to commit 1009 00:35:53,970 --> 00:35:52,030 so it's a tough job and there's a lot of 1010 00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:53,980 things that make it seem hard it kind of 1011 00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:55,230 actually blows down to be pretty easy 1012 00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:57,310 like I said the only way to make sure we 1013 00:36:00,690 --> 00:35:59,010 don't launch that day is to not try 1014 00:36:06,540 --> 00:36:00,700 doesn't mean I'm just going to try 1015 00:36:08,730 --> 00:36:06,550 willy-nilly so can you thank Ken Kramer 1016 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:08,740 Space Flight magazine I wonder if there 1017 00:36:13,890 --> 00:36:11,280 is any chance during the spacewalk that 1018 00:36:16,860 --> 00:36:13,900 the astronauts would use this fisheye 1019 00:36:18,930 --> 00:36:16,870 lens to get a picture of Atlantis on the 1020 00:36:20,730 --> 00:36:18,940 last flight and if you could both talk 1021 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:20,740 about a little bit destinations where 1022 00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:22,690 you would like to go in the future 1023 00:36:26,820 --> 00:36:25,660 Thanks let's see the I don't know if 1024 00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:26,830 they're going to be taking that camera 1025 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:29,230 out based on where they're going on the 1026 00:36:32,130 --> 00:36:30,370 truss I'm not sure we're headed out to 1027 00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:32,140 the ends anymore so we we knew we were 1028 00:36:35,580 --> 00:36:34,270 doing that on that that mission and so 1029 00:36:36,690 --> 00:36:35,590 that's why we took that lens along with 1030 00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:36,700 this we were gonna be at the top of the 1031 00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:38,350 truss looking down so I don't know 1032 00:36:42,270 --> 00:36:40,030 specifically if they plan on the special 1033 00:36:44,610 --> 00:36:42,280 photo ops this is the station crew doing 1034 00:36:46,890 --> 00:36:44,620 the e V a with their gear so I'm not 1035 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:46,900 sure exactly what they have planned as 1036 00:36:50,220 --> 00:36:48,130 far as destinations 1037 00:36:52,770 --> 00:36:50,230 in the very short term I'm looking 1038 00:36:54,540 --> 00:36:52,780 forward to a vacation in the long term 1039 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:54,550 from from an agency you mean where the 1040 00:36:59,130 --> 00:36:55,690 agency is going to go is the destination 1041 00:37:00,570 --> 00:36:59,140 yeah to me the path were on is is is 1042 00:37:02,190 --> 00:37:00,580 probably the right one you got to take 1043 00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:02,200 it in steps and bite off as you go you 1044 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:04,300 got to learn to walk before you run 1045 00:37:08,580 --> 00:37:06,490 going straight to Mars is a massive 1046 00:37:09,630 --> 00:37:08,590 challenge you got to learn what you're 1047 00:37:10,770 --> 00:37:09,640 doing is you get there the station is a 1048 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:10,780 great test bed for that 1049 00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:12,910 a perfect example is we have some really 1050 00:37:16,770 --> 00:37:15,280 good robust life control our 1051 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:16,780 life-support systems up on station both 1052 00:37:20,130 --> 00:37:18,610 the Russian and the American versions 1053 00:37:22,110 --> 00:37:20,140 but if you look at them they require 1054 00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:22,120 fairly constant maintenance and fairly 1055 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:25,180 often need to need parts sent back up 1056 00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:26,890 and you couldn't take that system to 1057 00:37:31,470 --> 00:37:28,870 Mars as is and and not have to have a 1058 00:37:33,540 --> 00:37:31,480 tractor trailer full of parts falling on 1059 00:37:34,830 --> 00:37:33,550 behind you so we have a still a lot to 1060 00:37:36,420 --> 00:37:34,840 learn before we get a life support 1061 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:36,430 system capable of taking us all the way 1062 00:37:40,530 --> 00:37:38,410 to Mars without a lot of maintenance and 1063 00:37:42,930 --> 00:37:40,540 that's just one example the propulsion 1064 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:42,940 the the habitats the e VA suits all that 1065 00:37:47,310 --> 00:37:46,090 has to evolve so as you go you can you 1066 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:47,320 can do that but kind of like we did in 1067 00:37:49,710 --> 00:37:48,370 the spirit didn't you back in the Apollo 1068 00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:49,720 days you don't have to have everything 1069 00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:51,670 before you go out into deep space you 1070 00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:52,960 could go do a flyby you could do a 1071 00:37:57,390 --> 00:37:54,580 near-earth object 1072 00:37:58,890 --> 00:37:57,400 mission we joke that sometimes the moon 1073 00:38:00,510 --> 00:37:58,900 is a four-letter word at NASA but the 1074 00:38:02,370 --> 00:38:00,520 moons and near-earth object so you know 1075 00:38:04,410 --> 00:38:02,380 it all depends on what objective you're 1076 00:38:06,660 --> 00:38:04,420 really trying to satisfy that day and so 1077 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:06,670 to me personally I think the destination 1078 00:38:10,350 --> 00:38:08,170 isn't as important as much it is the 1079 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:10,360 objective of the next step what 1080 00:38:13,290 --> 00:38:11,770 technology do we need to prove that 1081 00:38:14,820 --> 00:38:13,300 we're ready to go to the next step let's 1082 00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:14,830 go demonstrate it test it out and then 1083 00:38:18,270 --> 00:38:16,480 go for the next place beyond that 1084 00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:18,280 otherwise you get a little too focused 1085 00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:20,320 on the make everything work offer one 1086 00:38:23,460 --> 00:38:21,790 thing and you kind of do lose sight of 1087 00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:23,470 the well we can take little steps and 1088 00:38:26,190 --> 00:38:24,700 maybe go some different directions and 1089 00:38:27,630 --> 00:38:26,200 still accomplish a whole lot we don't 1090 00:38:29,130 --> 00:38:27,640 have to wait five years before we launch 1091 00:38:30,990 --> 00:38:29,140 we might be able to do a couple launches 1092 00:38:32,070 --> 00:38:31,000 between now and then and and the agency 1093 00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:32,080 is most definitely thinking about that 1094 00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:33,580 you see that in our we're not picking a 1095 00:38:37,590 --> 00:38:35,080 specific destination we're talking about 1096 00:38:39,810 --> 00:38:37,600 a myriad of destinations and personally 1097 00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:39,820 I think that's not a bad idea it lacks a 1098 00:38:44,010 --> 00:38:41,830 little bit of the unifying focus of a 1099 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:44,020 mission we do ultimately have that focus 1100 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:45,970 it's Mars it's just gonna take us a lot 1101 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:47,170 to get there and we don't want to run 1102 00:38:52,110 --> 00:38:49,450 right to the finish line long-winded 1103 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:52,120 speech I think from my perspective I 1104 00:38:57,090 --> 00:38:53,650 touched on a little bit in the last 1105 00:38:59,220 --> 00:38:57,100 press conference the shuttle program to 1106 00:39:01,110 --> 00:38:59,230 me was a was an evolutionary step off 1107 00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:01,120 for the planet and into and into the 1108 00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:04,150 heavens and we have learned to live and 1109 00:39:07,140 --> 00:39:05,860 work in low-earth orbit and we've done 1110 00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:07,150 that pretty well have we learned 1111 00:39:10,770 --> 00:39:09,310 everything of course not not yet but it 1112 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:10,780 was it was a good step it's a good step 1113 00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:13,210 along the way and and I think I think we 1114 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:14,800 as a species need to be thinking about 1115 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:17,530 living off this planet long term very 1116 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:19,450 long term and 1117 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:22,210 to me that autumn to me Mike Leinbach 1118 00:39:27,690 --> 00:39:25,450 that ought to be the mission for us as a 1119 00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:27,700 species to think about living off this 1120 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:30,220 planet and then what'd he do to do that 1121 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:31,810 well we've learned to live and operate 1122 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:33,610 in low Earth orbit we need to learn to 1123 00:39:38,010 --> 00:39:35,650 live on another body we've touched the 1124 00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:38,020 moon I believe personally that the moon 1125 00:39:43,860 --> 00:39:40,990 is a good a good destination to go learn 1126 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:43,870 how to live on another body get that 1127 00:39:48,510 --> 00:39:46,330 experience behind us so we can take 1128 00:39:52,020 --> 00:39:48,520 those next logical steps away from from 1129 00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:52,030 Mother Earth and live beyond what we've 1130 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:54,940 known all of our all of our lives and so 1131 00:39:58,980 --> 00:39:56,770 an another evolutionary step I believe 1132 00:40:01,020 --> 00:39:58,990 is the way we should go I'm not the 1133 00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:01,030 policy maker on the implementer and so 1134 00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:06,910 if I need to be told what to do bill two 1135 00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:09,220 more quick ones for Mike Leinbach if you 1136 00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:10,750 guys got any update on the crowd 1137 00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:12,040 estimates that they're saying is it 1138 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:13,780 still 500 to 750 that they're talking 1139 00:40:18,030 --> 00:40:15,970 about and is there anything in this flow 1140 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:18,040 that you're not doing because it's the 1141 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:19,810 last flight or is this pretty much an 1142 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:21,850 OPS normal all the way through to post 1143 00:40:26,310 --> 00:40:24,250 landing let's see anything we're not 1144 00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:26,320 done I can't think of anything we're not 1145 00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:27,790 doing let me think about that well 1146 00:40:31,890 --> 00:40:30,430 answer yeah the estimate is still five 1147 00:40:34,110 --> 00:40:31,900 hundred thousand seven hundred fifty 1148 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:34,120 thousand for Friday if if for some 1149 00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:36,010 reason Cathy makes a stay on the ground 1150 00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:39,310 from a weather perspective Friday you 1151 00:40:45,930 --> 00:40:43,150 didn't laugh then I think over the 1152 00:40:47,730 --> 00:40:45,940 weekend will probably rise a bit in fact 1153 00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:47,740 our security forces are saying it may go 1154 00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:49,540 up a little bit over the weekend but 1155 00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:52,060 it's going to be jam-packed regardless 1156 00:40:57,210 --> 00:40:54,340 of what day we launch anything we 1157 00:41:02,250 --> 00:40:57,220 haven't done I don't think I can't think 1158 00:41:03,780 --> 00:41:02,260 of anything Tom Abrams KTRK in Houston 1159 00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:03,790 what does it say to you that so many 1160 00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:06,160 people would make their way here to 1161 00:41:13,590 --> 00:41:10,720 watch that final launch pride in the 1162 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:13,600 program pride in America I'll be honest 1163 00:41:19,890 --> 00:41:16,290 I wish it had picked up years ago 1164 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:19,900 because I think we've lost the interest 1165 00:41:25,470 --> 00:41:23,410 of some of the American people and and 1166 00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:25,480 so when you see the last one you want to 1167 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:27,550 race down to Florida and see it so you 1168 00:41:33,489 --> 00:41:30,650 can have check that off your bucket list 1169 00:41:34,989 --> 00:41:33,499 and that's good that's fine I wish we 1170 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:34,999 had had been able to maintain the 1171 00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:36,410 interest of the American people a bit 1172 00:41:40,989 --> 00:41:38,630 better than we had in over the life of 1173 00:41:42,670 --> 00:41:40,999 the program not that we haven't done 1174 00:41:46,359 --> 00:41:42,680 that I just don't think we've done it as 1175 00:41:48,329 --> 00:41:46,369 as good as we could have okay we'll take 1176 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:48,339 one more question for Irene please 1177 00:41:55,210 --> 00:41:52,249 thanks Irene Klotz with Reuters probably 1178 00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:55,220 from Mike Moses and this may actually be 1179 00:41:59,460 --> 00:41:56,720 more of a spacestation question but 1180 00:42:03,180 --> 00:41:59,470 perhaps you we would you know the answer 1181 00:42:08,650 --> 00:42:03,190 has NASA done any risk assessments on 1182 00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:08,660 kind of long-term problem I guess it's 1183 00:42:15,009 --> 00:42:10,630 just a long-term risk of space station 1184 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:15,019 having just a single crew transportation 1185 00:42:19,989 --> 00:42:17,650 system for the foreseeable future I 1186 00:42:21,370 --> 00:42:19,999 don't know if they've specifically 1187 00:42:23,890 --> 00:42:21,380 looked at that we've been in the 1188 00:42:26,739 --> 00:42:23,900 situation before after Columbia we were 1189 00:42:28,839 --> 00:42:26,749 down to rely on just on the Soyuz and so 1190 00:42:30,730 --> 00:42:28,849 it's not an unexpected thing so the 1191 00:42:33,130 --> 00:42:30,740 reliability numbers of their rocket 1192 00:42:34,539 --> 00:42:33,140 system and their launch capabilities but 1193 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:34,549 we're not down to a single system we're 1194 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:36,410 down to a single system for crew but we 1195 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:39,410 now have the ATV from the European Space 1196 00:42:44,259 --> 00:42:41,450 Agency in the HTV from the Japanese 1197 00:42:47,099 --> 00:42:44,269 Space Agency has resupply ships both are 1198 00:42:50,349 --> 00:42:47,109 doing fantastic and able to take up a 1199 00:42:51,849 --> 00:42:50,359 literally tons of cargo and so we're in 1200 00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:51,859 actually a much better situation than we 1201 00:42:54,089 --> 00:42:53,119 were back when we had that Columbia 1202 00:42:56,109 --> 00:42:54,099 stand down but from a crew perspective 1203 00:42:57,940 --> 00:42:56,119 yeah we are in that situation if you 1204 00:42:59,229 --> 00:42:57,950 think about it from a crew safety and 1205 00:43:01,299 --> 00:42:59,239 rescue standpoint we've always relied on 1206 00:43:03,460 --> 00:43:01,309 still use as our rescue vehicle to get 1207 00:43:04,839 --> 00:43:03,470 crews off of station and so I know 1208 00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:04,849 they've done that math I just I don't 1209 00:43:07,870 --> 00:43:06,079 know the specifics if they looked at 1210 00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:07,880 this time period and this exposure 1211 00:43:12,430 --> 00:43:11,089 period for what that means to them just 1212 00:43:14,979 --> 00:43:12,440 following up on that for a minute then 1213 00:43:16,690 --> 00:43:14,989 um if the station is as you all have 1214 00:43:18,430 --> 00:43:16,700 been saying the kind of the ultimate 1215 00:43:20,890 --> 00:43:18,440 crowning legacy of the shuttle program 1216 00:43:23,609 --> 00:43:20,900 do you think it's being left at risk 1217 00:43:27,579 --> 00:43:23,619 having only one way to get up there I 1218 00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:27,589 don't think it's at risk per se it's you 1219 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:30,529 know obviously a better better plant 1220 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:35,690 better tough word a a more robust plan 1221 00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,249 would have had redundancy built in a 1222 00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:38,960 follow-on ready to go before the first 1223 00:43:42,999 --> 00:43:40,609 one was retired and a stepping-stone 1224 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:43,009 type of approach we just didn't get to 1225 00:43:47,470 --> 00:43:44,210 that so are we 1226 00:43:50,099 --> 00:43:47,480 anything at risk yeah probably but is it 1227 00:43:52,450 --> 00:43:50,109 unacceptable risk no I don't believe so 1228 00:43:54,579 --> 00:43:52,460 there's you know the Russian the Russian 1229 00:43:56,349 --> 00:43:54,589 system is unbelievably robust and like I 1230 00:43:58,210 --> 00:43:56,359 said our our international partners with 1231 00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:58,220 their resupply capability can can really 1232 00:44:02,680 --> 00:43:59,599 do a great job we're going to get our 1233 00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:02,690 commercial cargo resupply underway we're 1234 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:04,250 talking about Commercial Crew resupply 1235 00:44:08,410 --> 00:44:06,050 and so all those things are going to 1236 00:44:10,210 --> 00:44:08,420 happen and so stations station is a 1237 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:10,220 pretty good animal you look at its 1238 00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:12,050 reliability and its performance it's 1239 00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:13,849 doing way better than the numbers show 1240 00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:15,440 in terms of what maintenance it would 1241 00:44:19,359 --> 00:44:17,089 have required by now what what events 1242 00:44:21,370 --> 00:44:19,369 you mean by now you look at the Space 1243 00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:21,380 Shuttle and you kind of what you're 1244 00:44:26,290 --> 00:44:23,569 missing is that work platform that lets 1245 00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:26,300 you do the unexpected so it's got the 1246 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:28,160 robot arm it's got the airlock it's got 1247 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:29,930 a dedicated crew it's got a giant 1248 00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:31,910 payload Bay and so to handle those 1249 00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:33,710 unexpected things those unexpected 1250 00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:36,319 things are mostly all behind us assembly 1251 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:37,760 was the big unexpected make sure 1252 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:39,530 everything fits together if it doesn't 1253 00:44:42,670 --> 00:44:41,450 you got the ability to then redo things 1254 00:44:43,870 --> 00:44:42,680 you got the ability to put that module 1255 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:43,880 back in the shuttle payload Bay and 1256 00:44:46,990 --> 00:44:45,410 return it if you had to 1257 00:44:48,430 --> 00:44:47,000 now that assembly is over and we're more 1258 00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:48,440 in a maintenance utilization standpoint 1259 00:44:52,930 --> 00:44:51,200 a lot of those big unknowns are kind of 1260 00:44:54,250 --> 00:44:52,940 gone now it's just a keep operating kind 1261 00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:54,260 of thing and so you're able to go to a 1262 00:44:57,010 --> 00:44:55,520 little different model of operation 1263 00:44:58,900 --> 00:44:57,020 we're not having the shuttle around so 1264 00:45:03,150 --> 00:44:58,910 not as big a risk as it would have been 1265 00:45:06,730 --> 00:45:05,109 okay I think that's all for the 1266 00:45:08,170 --> 00:45:06,740 questions we have Jim did you have one 1267 00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:08,180 more follow up we'll take one more from 1268 00:45:12,370 --> 00:45:09,920 Jim follow-up and then we'll conclude 1269 00:45:14,650 --> 00:45:12,380 briefing Jim Siegel celebration 1270 00:45:18,250 --> 00:45:14,660 independent newspaper if there continues 1271 00:45:20,260 --> 00:45:18,260 to be unexpected delays weather weather 1272 00:45:21,849 --> 00:45:20,270 some other reason is there a point at 1273 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:21,859 which you could run into a budget 1274 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:26,690 problems or or is that a factor here no 1275 00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:30,410 so yeah there's no actual checkbook 1276 00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:31,730 that's gonna expire anything like that 1277 00:45:35,319 --> 00:45:33,950 so no we're we got the funding to do 1278 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:35,329 what we need to for the launch window we 1279 00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:36,890 have like I said if we if we have to 1280 00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:38,089 move the other side of Delta that's not 1281 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:39,470 there's nothing stopping us from doing 1282 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:40,010 that 1283 00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:43,970 perspective it's exactly the right place 1284 00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:45,049 to have the launch team there's no 1285 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:46,910 external pressures to worry about from 1286 00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:49,130 from a schedule standpoint 1287 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:52,400 that will conclude today's sts-135 1288 00:45:57,490 --> 00:45:54,890 pre-launch news conference up next on 1289 00:45:59,380 --> 00:45:57,500 NASA television at 1:00 p.m. Eastern is 1290 00:46:01,749 --> 00:45:59,390 the International Space Station Science 1291 00:46:04,180 --> 00:46:01,759 and Technology news conference for more